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#1 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by PSP 29.11.2016 06:22

Well more delays with the release of the trader version. I was told they were having PayPal issues and once they have a payment system ready they will take it public. I hope end of year or earl 2017

#2 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 29.11.2016 13:53

really? The payment system?
I don't know much about those systems, but MA wrote about it on Oct. 12 already and for me it's hard to believe that setting up a payment system would take that long. Either way, as long as Socrates is a good product and is indeed released within the next 1-2 month it doesn't really make a big difference. Now that it's delayed for almost 10 month anyway.

BTW. have you been in Orlando for the conference? Unfortunately I couldn't make it this time. I would have loved to see the tech analysis session. I hope they make a DVD this time, but they already promised one last time and didn't make one [rolling_eyes] . Hopefully they make another session in Hong Kong soon.

#3 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by PSP 29.11.2016 15:38

yes i agree...i have been told many times it was "almost ready" for release and I think the delay is actually much longer than 10 months. I too wanted to attend the conference but the full version was $7000 if I recall and didn't work with my work schedule. I have also emailed about DVDs and received a response that yes DVDs will be available for purchase - (maybe we could do a shared purchase).

I live in BC, Canada so the next time he does a conference in western N America I will attend.

Here is the email response I received:

"As soon as our new payment system is up and running we will release the Trader version
anything that involved PayPal has been closed. So that includes Socrates Payments and any payments that were going through the store on the blog using PayPal. This includes the reports as well. The only things available on the blog store are the DVDs and the reports by Invoice.if you had an trial subscription it will be extended for free .We are in the process of setting up a new payment system . Please have some patience. Yes, the conference will be recorded and a DVD will be available.
All the best,
Vicky"

#4 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 01.12.2016 11:00

thanks for the message from Vicky.

MA has mentioned today another conf for next year. Maybe in the US or even better for me in Europe

#5 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 18.12.2016 20:39

MA's latest post on this

Zitat
It has been the banks. Many seemed to refuse to allow clients to pay using credit cards claiming this does not fit neatly into their business model.



I don't get it. Paying with credit card for the WEC works, but not for Socrates Trader Level? The Trader Level is even much heaper than the WEC.
Also, MA is saying that the banks refuse to accept payments from clients. But the service is not yet open to the general public. How does he know then? Socrates investor level payments are ok then but not trader level?

Zitat
The people who attended the WEC simply were given access and did not have to pay per click.



This sounds like people already using it??!!
At least something positiv


MA should start to accept Bitcoint - although - maybe then he will be thrown into jail again

#6 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by PSP 08.01.2017 08:11

Well, I am still patiently waiting for the trader version, and am looking forward to any DVDs and new reports for 2017.

I made a bit of money shorting gold that will cover all of the above;)

I hope once these reports go live and the trader version goes live a few of us can become a bit more active sharing some ideas.

All the best,
PSP

#7 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by entran30 16.06.2017 12:03

Hello everybody,
Has anyone any new information regarding the trader version??

The only information I have is that they should release it in Q2 2017 (that´s in 15 days), but they are saying they would release it from Q1 2016, so it is a little upsetting.
I hope this one is the real one.

Regards,
Entran30

#8 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 19.06.2017 22:12

I haven't heard anything new so far.
As a follower of Armstrongs blog (for several years) I've learned that one shouldn't take those release dates too serious. I believe that, in part this is marketing but also timelines are often hard to estimate in MA's business. Unexpexted things may happen (technical or business wise).

MA previously talked about moving business headquarter to Asia because of too high taxes in the USA. But now, since Trump has announced this tax reform (lowering from 35% to 15% + tax amnesty), I believe MA wants to stay in the US. He is waiting for a definitive statement or congress approval. This is all just speculation from my side. I don't know if this is really true.
Tomorrow there will be an announcement from Trumps office regarding the tax reform. I'm curious to see what they say...
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/19/politi...head/index.html
"......House Speaker Paul Ryan is giving a major speech on tax reform Tuesday at the National Association of Manufacturers....."

#9 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 11.07.2017 19:41

todays message from MA
"...We are getting ready to relaunch Socrates..."

hmmm, we've heard that several times before... but.... maybe it's happening this time [rolling_eyes]

#10 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 17.07.2017 13:22

Zitat
The pro-version should be available by September. I am pushing the staff as hard as I can.

MA-Blog Source

Zitat
We are getting close to unleashing Socrates. The hold up has been in the delivery rather than in the analysis. We have had some problem with pushing the results up to the cloud, which we hope to solve.

MA-Blog Source

By September/October time frame, Trump has probably made a decision (or has to) about the tax reform.

#11 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by entran30 02.11.2017 17:22

Zitat von Alex

Zitat
The pro-version should be available by September. I am pushing the staff as hard as I can.

MA-Blog Source

Zitat
We are getting close to unleashing Socrates. The hold up has been in the delivery rather than in the analysis. We have had some problem with pushing the results up to the cloud, which we hope to solve.

MA-Blog Source

By September/October time frame, Trump has probably made a decision (or has to) about the tax reform.





Hello!

Any updated information about trader version of Socrates?
I was informed two weeks ago by the MA Staff that they would release it before the WEC, but it seems that it will be as it was in the previous times... no trader level in the horizon

Best regards,
Entran30

#12 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 09.11.2017 21:57

Hello Entran30,

I still believe that the delay is about Trumps tax reform.
The latest development on that front is that Trump tries to get the reform through congress (or senat?) ASAP (this year). I believe that 1-2 month ago it did look like it would take too long for the tax reform to materialize. Hence, MA planned to release 2 versions of SOC Pro. One version now and another version later (with the arrays and reversals).
Now to make this even more complicated, the Paradise Papers where released a couple of days ago. This in turn has the potential to delay the tax reform.

My guess is this:
Tax reform this year: only one SOC Pro Version and only when the law has passed Congress (or Senat)
Tax reform delay to next year: two SOC Pro Versions. One soon and the other later, when tax reform is finalized.

The big question I see, for the coming days and weeks: will the Paradise Papers negatively impact the support of the Republicans for Trumps tax reform?

BTW. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that Paradise Papers leaked right in that moment when Trump wants to speed up tax reform. But thats a different topic for itself.

#13 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by entran30 09.11.2017 22:11

Zitat von Alex

Hello Entran30,

I still believe that the delay is about Trumps tax reform.
The latest development on that front is that Trump tries to get the reform through congress (or senat?) ASAP (this year). I believe that 1-2 month ago it did look like it would take too long for the tax reform to materialize. Hence, MA planned to release 2 versions of SOC Pro. One version now and another version later (with the arrays and reversals).
Now to make this even more complicated, the Paradise Papers where released a couple of days ago. This in turn has the potential to delay the tax reform.

My guess is this:
Tax reform this year: only one SOC Pro Version and only when the law has passed Congress (or Senat)
Tax reform delay to next year: two SOC Pro Versions. One soon and the other later, when tax reform is finalized.

The big question I see, for the coming days and weeks: will the Paradise Papers negatively impact the support of the Republicans for Trumps tax reform?

BTW. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that Paradise Papers leaked right in that moment when Trump wants to speed up tax reform. But thats a different topic for itself.



Hello Alex,

I think you are right...also with the Paradise Papers issue.
We will have to wait.

Best regards,
Entran30

#14 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by PSP 10.11.2017 15:24

I was informed by the Socrates support team this the trader version would be ready by Nov 4. Well, yet another date has come and gone unfortunately.

Alex, I think you are right about the tax issue. I mean there has been a trader preview version available for last years WECs attendees.

I'm not finding the basic level of service helpful at all unfortunately.

PSP

#15 RE: Trader ver. of Socrates by Alex 22.01.2019 19:18

it looks like the SOC service migrates to the new website. It's good to see some progress now.

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